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Blown Relays--Tiger River Bengal

Hi,

I need some advice on what may be causing blown relays on my heater control board. Some quick background--I purchased the spa new in October 2002. It has always been wired and jumped for 240V off of a subpanel with a 30A & 20A breaker.

Recently, I moved to a new home, hooked it up the same way and it worked for about a month, then relay #1 blew. (See picture, relay #1.) I replaced the relay, then relay #3 blew.

Is the board just old and need to be replaced? Should I just keep replacing the relays? I think it is the IQ2020 board.

OR, is there something else that could be causing the problem?
I've read some posts that infer this is a common problem and all I need is to replace the board. I'd hate to replace the board and have the relays blow again...

Thank you for your help!

Posted by on 2007-12-20 02:22:21. (12105)

There wasn't enough solder on the traces. A New heater PCB uses more, and fixed the issue

Posted by on 2007-12-20 09:06:25. SW Florida (12107)

Swine--Thanks for your help. I'll order a new one.

Posted by on 2007-12-20 19:49:24. (12112)

...Or you can go the poor man's route... Replace the relays, and then solder heavy gauge wire pigtails from the relay posts to the terminals. Prolly last longer than even a new board.

Sad fact is none of today's on board relays are strong enough to handle the high inductive resistance from a heater, long term. The ideal solution is to add a mercury wetted contactor in place of the onboard relays....but that costs money.

Posted by on 2007-12-24 05:37:29. Albert Lea, MN (12130)

Quote:

...Or you can go the poor man's route... Replace the relays, and then solder heavy gauge wire pigtails from the relay posts to the terminals. Prolly last longer than even a new board. Sad fact is none of today's on board relays are strong enough to handle the high inductive resistance from a heater, long term. The ideal solution is to add a mercury wetted contactor in place of the onboard relays....but that costs money.

crude, but effective <img src=" title="Laughing" />

Posted by on 2007-12-24 07:20:20. SW Florida (12137)

Since I haven't had a chance to order the new board, I'll try the pigtail route to see if this works...

Any idea on where I can buy 1 relay? Omron #G8P-1C4P-V-DC18

Thanks guys.

Posted by on 2007-12-29 00:20:10. (12160)

I'm having the same problems on my Caldera Spa I've had for four years. Last year K-1 blew and I was able to find the 12 volt replacement, but this year K-3 blew and I can't find the 18 volt coil voltage version of this relay anywhere. HAWK_ have you been able to find this part?

Posted by on 2008-01-08 18:12:10. Vanouver,Washington (12256)

Ted,
I've found them, had to buy a few--I do have one or two extra. If you get me you info, I'll send you one. The part # is Omron #G8P-1C4P-V-DC18

Posted by on 2008-01-08 20:39:05. (12258)

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:39 pm Post subject:

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Hawk,

I am also in need of these relays (Omron #G8P-1C4P-V-DC1, one for sure, possibly two. Still have any available? or at least where else I can find them.
My Hot Springs Spa heated up traces also. (Darn INVENSYS CONTROL product)

Thanks

" I've found them, had to buy a few--I do have one or two extra. If you get me you info, I'll send you one. The part # is Omron #G8P-1C4P-V-DC18 "

Posted by on 2008-01-10 09:51:47. (12265)

Looks like I am having the SAME problem.
My black and white wires were getting really hot and the casing on the wire actually cracked.

I checked volts from the leads to the ground and I have 115v on the white side and I have 0v on the black side.

I would love to just replace the relay rather than the whole board if thats possible. Thanks in advance!

Matt

Posted by on 2008-01-13 18:04:42. Rochester Hills (12298)

I found a few places that have these relays but you need to buy 32 min at a time at $3.22 each!

Anyone have any idea where to get some elsewhere?

Also, are all three the same?
I need the one you have labeled as #1 up at the beginning of this post.

Thanks in advance, and sorry for the double post.
Just trying to get information.

Matt

Posted by on 2008-01-14 18:34:57. Rochester Hills (12313)

Hi Guys,

OK, I successfully soldered leads ont he back of the board and it works like a champ!
I've got both types of relays--I had to buy a bunch of both.Email me and I'll get you some relays--I'm douglashawkins @ yahoo.

Thanks!

Posted by on 2008-01-26 22:07:07. (12459)
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