:" title="Question" /> In effort to achieve what feels like crisp clean water beyond the first few days I have been looking a SPAMOSS. Does any one have any experience with this product?

First I've heard of it.

Why not give it a try and let us know the results?

Thanks.

I am going to when summer breaks. Its tuff to change water in winter. Just thought someone might have allready tried it.
SpaMoss At the heart of SpaNaturally® are select species of sphagnum moss we call SpaMoss™. All moss used is hand harvested as a wholly renewable resource without any damage to the environment. SpaMoss™ is hand cleaned, compressed and packaged using no chemicals. SpaMoss™ conditions your spa water, creating a fresh, clear, foam-free environment for your enjoyment. Replace SpaMoss™ every 30 days for best results.

well fwiw, that stuff has to actually work in practice to be effective.

eg we can't fill our gas tanks with sawdust to make our cars run -

So give it a shot I reckon. No harm no foul.

yea yea you have said that twice now. I am looking for info prior to doing like I said in my previous post. I thought that maybe at this forum I might find some one who has been their and done that if it is OK.

Lol I think you misunderstood my take... I wasn't commenting re your comments, but the copied sales info you posted. I'm always a bit skeptical about claims made by manufacturers for magic water goo!

So, don't think I was being critical of you at all - sorry it came out that way... I really would like to get your feedback on using it.

Cheers and Thanks!

Thanks. I have looked at this spagnum moss and it may be something. In europe it is used a wound dressing because of its anti-bactirial properties. I used the sales pitch stuff because it was consise. I am actually looking for two things. Any experience with this and discussion on new stuff for SPA's. If you have ever been to northern MI lakes were their is large amounts of spagnum moss the lakes are just gourgous. Always remember, nature always does it first and better.

People seem to selectively forget that chlorine and arsenic are natural too " title="Twisted Evil" /> Nature doesn't always "do it better." I suggest steering clear of sales pitches, and use what actually works. I've no experience with "Spa Moss" but am always a bit skeptical of these type products.

omg swine - come on pal... play nice. I'm skeptikkkkal like you too but you never know - some idiot may have just made something that actually works better. I think I need to go investigate myself... " title="Razz" />

Ok well I went and looked.

For one, this is not a sanitizer, it appears to be portrayed as a 'conditioner' of sorts -

I still don't understand what it actually does.

What makes matters worse, is this health warning from wikipedia regarding sphagnum moss:
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Health dangers

Sphagnum moss can potentially harbour the chronic fungal disease, sporotrichosis. Sporothrix schenckii spores enter the skin via abrasions, scratches, and small puncture wounds as a result of unprotected contact exposure to Sphagnum moss.
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Perhaps I'd need a spa condom to use this stuff... dunno. Maybe by the time it gets dried out and all that that the health dangers go away because their environmental conditions have been significantly changed.

But anyway- the ONLY claim made by the manufacturer is this:

'to lower the need for chemicals in your spa'

Based on what? Beyond this statement, the rest of the site talks about compatibility with sanitizers and such, which is normal, but I still don't see the justification for the lesser need. Besides, most spas these days have ozonators on them which actually DO reduce chemical sanitizer requirements because ozone actually kills bacteria.

Perhaps I'm missing something - I'd welcome any input or redirection to the real truth about this, as I love new stuff that works. I'm not a fuddy duddy that lives and breathes old school spa crap. Anyways, that's my take for now - I remain neutral in this, until someone can provide some reasonable study or research that this stuff does work to support the company's claims - basically the same category as Pete.

I'm all in favor of working sanitizers, and I'm certainly no fuddy-duddy I've been around long enough to recognize a snake-oil pitch when I hear one. Wait- maybe that does make me a fuddy duddy " title="Twisted Evil" /> I believe in science and research, not invalid comparisons of "Michigan Lakes are clear." Well, the lakes aren't over 100 degrees, over-flowing with sweaty adults and children either. There's usually a grain of truth to these items, and everyone really is looking for that all "natural" effective sanitizer. I have no doubt that one day, we'll find it. But only if it's inexpensive to produce, with a large profit margin " title="Laughing" /> Good luck with the Spa-Moss " title="Smile" />

If it reduces your need for a water clairifier by 1%, then technically it lowers your need for chemicals

Many fungi is very difficult to kill. Generally it takes heat, high heat, such as fire to do the job.

Asbestos is also a naturally occurring substance.

More research...
after viewing the video - I'm still not convinced. A lot of talk about how things can be better, but not why - or how I'm supposed to 'do this thing' using my existing equipment to reduce dependence on normal chemistry.

Mineral sanitizers, in combination with dichlor and ozone have been standard fare for many years now, and provide fantastic results. The only issue with that - are HOW THE HELL DO YOU DO IT? To get it just right? (Yes I can do it, but water here and there, as well as bathing / bather conditions are always different area to area, household to household).

I see the same question here with spa moss. HOW THE HELL DO YOU DO IT?

Which frustrates me. It makes the magic answer just as elusive for the average consumer. For an informational video, this was pretty good, however for a sales video, it was terrible.

There was no 1,2,3 at the end to convince me at the end - that spa moss will do better than what I'm doing now... Additionally, it did not address the video's self generated concerns about biofilm. Like ahem - so I get spamoss and use it... does that mean my biofilm problem goes away or becomes magically non-existent?

No. It was not directly addressed. Matter of fact, my concerns were indirectly addressed to some limited extent all throughout the video with references to everything BUT what I should have been concerned with.

Perhaps someone experienced with it can provide their chemistry formula and location and bather frequency to assist in analysis of the product, however, what really kicks my butt, is they talk about consumers being confused about how to take care of their water over and over, and they just can't ever get it right by spending hours and hours trying to balance and test etc...

But what the heck happens when you throw in spa moss? Some chemistry god comes along and tells you what to put in? Heck no. They answered NONE of the concerns that THEY brought up!

It all goes back to page one... the original claim on the site that it reduces chemical dependency - just without the 'how to', so I can become less confused like their users were 'before', and now are not????

PS: Hey Andy good to see you around, hope things are going well for you. Heck Swine I wasn't calling you a fuddy duddy by no means - Just trying to convey to the OP that I was open to all kinds of new stuff if it works. (I like new gimmicks!) Lol... heh heh..

I'm always here " title="Laughing" />, probably 4 or 5 time a day. Just don't post a lot.

And here's my point exactly...

That is the END of their sanitizer discussion.

DUH!

So I'm supposed to go off on my own and figger that a dump truck full of dichlor is ok as long as its at my own discretion. haha!...

Now I can proudly wear the hat of mr fuddy duddy...

after thinking -(perhaps I should stop as usually no good thing comes of it)- about this, what if a customer 'at his own discretion' (following the instructions on company x website) decided not to use a sanitizer, or reduced sanitizer usage to bare minimums and one of his (or neighbors) kids got sick and died... can't forget what happened at some certain waterpark in north metro atlanta a few years ago when some baby crapped in the pool and a kid died from an infection... http://www.marlerclark.com/news/whitewater9.htm That would leave the company quite liable for the end results of their instructions on 'how to'.

This is most of what i wanted. I thought some one out their might have tried this stuff. I am still new to hot tubs and have found them my new thing. Allot more nudity going on around my house since I bought a tub and I am tired.

But at any rate we have experienced rashes becuse of high combined chlorineas I went throught my learning process. I have got it down pretty good but would like to use as little chemicals as possible. Also I love my tub when I have just filled it up. For the next three or four days the water feels so crisp and clean and I would like to extend that as much as possible. Today is Wed and I filled my tub on Sat. The new feeling is almost gone.

I may still try SPAMOSS in the summer but if anyone has had any experience with this I would like to hear about it good or bad.